EP 57: The Power of Choosing Yourself: Sammy Sparkle on Addiction, Growth, and Strength!

What does it take to transform a life tangled in addiction into one of resilience and authenticity? Sammy Sparkle, or Samantha Roche, shares her courageous journey of battling amphetamine addiction that began in her school years as a misguided attempt to gain confidence and lose weight. Her raw and candid narrative unveils how addiction took hold of her life, affecting not just her but those around her. Through her story, we explore the selfish grip of dependency and the relentless determination it takes to reclaim one's life.

Imagine the powerful impact of simply asking, "Are you really okay?" In "Finding Your Garden of Wild Flowers," we highlight the importance of checking in on friends who may appear cheerful but could be hiding deeper struggles. Here, we uncover how genuine concern can spark significant change and remind us of the comfort found in vulnerability. Personal growth is a journey, much like cleaning a messy house, and we encourage everyone to embrace their authentic selves, inspired by those who live boldly and without fear of judgment.

Sammy's journey of self-discovery is nothing short of inspiring. As she sheds the external pressures and embraces her natural self, she finds empowerment in living life on her own terms. Her story is a testament to the power of vulnerability, connection, and the serendipity of life's encounters. As we conclude, we celebrate Sammy's courage and resilience, inviting listeners to support her and join in a vibrant event on December 7th, celebrating life, connection, and authenticity.

Chapters

• 0:00 Recovery From Addiction
• 15:50 Finding Your Garden of Wild Flowers
• 23:24 A Conversation About Self-Discovery and Inspiration
• 31:58 Embracing Connection and Vulnerability

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

I have to save my life. That is some strength, that is some bravery.

Speaker 2: 0:07

I'd hit rock bottom, and it was either I'm going to die and I'm going to leave everybody this memory of a nasty person that I've become because I was evil. Drugs make you do and act ways that you never would before.

Speaker 1: 0:28

I am so grateful you are my second visual guest, which is amazing and literally it's so funny because we only met what less than a week ago? So even a week ago, not even a week ago, we met and, yeah, like it's been just the conversation we had, just in the chat, because we didn't really get a chance to speak or anything. Yeah, the conversation we had in the chat, instantly. I was like, yeah, can we go, let's do this, let's, let's jump on, let's have a conversation. I want to find out more about you and I love authenticity and rawness and I got that instantly from you. So I was like, yeah, we need to talk, so let me do my intro and then we'll get stuck in.

Speaker 1: 1:08

Yes, hi guys, welcome to another episode of the so flipping extra podcast, a platform for me to express, explore and connect and be so flipping extra, why, I hear you ask. Well, because that's what brings me joy. So, without further ado, let's get into the podcast, because I have a guest today. Her name is sammy sparkle and she just she, I'm gonna say seems, because when I tell you I don't really know her that well yet, but by the end of this episode we're gonna know her, she's gonna let us into her life and her journey and I feel like, I feel like I could get emotional.

Speaker 2: 1:46

You may need a tissue or two.

Speaker 1: 1:51

I actually just saw them, so I think I've got these at the Clean and Tidy Home Show as well. I'm going to let you introduce yourself as you introduce yourself.

Speaker 2: 2:01

Okay, so my name is Wow, I'll just introduce myself. Okay, so my name is Wow, I would. I'll just introduce myself how I would. So my name is Samantha Roche and I am actually an addict in recovery. I am nearly 10 years, clean and sober, and prison saved my life.

Speaker 1: 2:23

Anything that I actually you don't want to answer, that is absolutely fine. I am an open book.

Speaker 2: 2:29

So I've done the 12-step programme. Now, the 12-step programme, if you've never known, it's literally steps, so it rips you from the bare minimum and you regrow. So my motto is rock bottom is the solid foundation on which you can rebuild your life.

Speaker 1: 2:49

Yeah, Les Brown had a quote and he said if you fall, fall, was it fall on your back? Because if you can look up, you can get up. Yes, so we can do stuff, we're going to fall, but just there's always, there's always a way up. Basically there's always a get up. You can always get up, even if you land on your front, just roll over, but you can always get up and I will. I feel like by the end of this, by the end of this episode, you're gonna give us so much more insight into just how you just keep going, like just keep going and what those things, that how you did it. That's what. That's what I want to know. Um, so what was, what was your addiction? And even, how did the beginning, how did that start?

Speaker 2: 3:34

so I so let's go back to when I was at school then, basically. So I was a size 22 in clothes. I was a very, very big girl. I'm only five foot yeah so I'm short in fat, used to get bullied all the time, um, and then I got introduced to speed or amphetamine yeah confidence that gave me. Yeah, like, like and that's what it was. I was chasing that confidence and then I noticed the weight started falling off me.

Speaker 1: 4:07

Wow, two birds with one stone here.

Speaker 2: 4:09

At first I was only doing it every weekend. Yeah, fine, I had it under control. And then it got to a point then where I'm chasing that next buzz, I'm chasing that confidence, I'm chasing the happiness that it gave me, that dopamine exactly. So it was every single day. It was weird because I never used to do it on a Thursday, my a Thursday, as silly as it sounds would be, when I used to force myself two pieces of toast, yeah, drink a drink, and I used to make myself go to sleep, but I'd make sure my fix was there ready for me when I opened my eyes the next morning.

Speaker 1: 4:50

So can I quickly ask you a question? Between it being um, do you say you only did it on the weekends before?

Speaker 2: 4:56

it literally was in a space of about six weeks so from.

Speaker 1: 5:00

So for six weeks it was just a weekend, and then it was a daily minus Thursday thing. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 5:06

Within six weeks, I was addicted. Yeah, and how long did the addiction last? On and off, on and off until I had my eldest, when I fell pregnant with him, and he's 14. So a good well, I'm nearly 14 now, so it must have been a good 15, yeah.

Speaker 1: 5:28

Wow.

Speaker 2: 5:29

Because I was like 15, 16 when I first started. Okay, and then I stopped literally. I'd only stopped about a year and a half when I had Zach.

Speaker 1: 5:39

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 5:40

And then I hit it hard so sorry, addiction is very selfish.

Speaker 1: 5:48

And why do you say that? What made you say?

Speaker 2: 5:50

that Because I couldn't quit for my son.

Speaker 1: 5:52

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 5:53

I couldn't quit for my family. I didn't have a problem Like it strips you so much of everything that you are Like looking back now. Now, I had a major problem, but it was everybody else who had the problem, not me. Yeah, because you were fine. You're not. I was fine like. Yeah, like I was. I wasn't fine because I was fighting with my mum yeah this. Fighting with my mum, like that's not right. That's not who. Who in their right mind, is fighting while your son is watching, mind you?

Speaker 1: 6:30

no, that's that's not good. My daughter's 11, my son's 18, so I feel like with him, possibly, like we've got past that, but having a daughter, I don't know like my fears are really different with her, like with her getting caught up in the wrong crowds and stuff. And I always say this that I'm so great the type, the characteristics that I've had growing up. I'm a follower, so I'm really grateful that my friends that I had in secondary school weren't doing crowds. Well, they weren't doing badness, so they weren't smoking behind the shed and all of that stuff. Because, because I would have done it, I would have done all of that stuff, but because they weren't, we were playing hide and seek at lunchtime and my thing was I was chasing all of that.

Speaker 2: 7:13

I wanted to hang around with them people because they were cool. I was a big, chubby kid who had no friends, so I was doing everything to fit in, but all my mates didn't have that addictive personality. My mates were eight and I ended with that. They was able to have that one drink and they was fine, whereas one was too many and a million was never enough with me.

Speaker 1: 7:37

yeah someone who does have a, who does have a I was gonna say a young girl, but it can be girls or boys a young teen. Is there something you could say? That is that okay, and this is not me putting blame on anyone. Is there something you feel that your ma or your parents could have done to avoid it? And again, no blame, because we don't know what?

Speaker 2: 8:02

no, no, I think it all boils down to me and the person who's in it. Yeah, because my mum tried so hard, like the conversations me and my mum had over it, and I'm like no, mum, I haven't got a problem, I'm fine. I'm fine. Like, what are you going on about? It's all you lot? Yeah, but every single day, when I seen she was trying just to get me to say, yeah, mum, I've got a problem, help me. Yeah, but I just couldn't.

Speaker 1: 8:31

When did that moment come, when you were able to say it, when I got arrested? Okay, this is the next part.

Speaker 2: 8:38

Yeah, when I got arrested.

Speaker 1: 8:40

And what was that? What happened there?

Speaker 2: 8:42

I got arrested for shoplifting, yeah, and what was that? What happened there? I got arrested for shoplifting, yeah, and possession with a class b and a class c drug. So cocaine, amphetamine and cannabis I had on me and because it was large amounts, it wasn't enough that I could be potentially supplying, but it was just personal. So I went. I was on remand for six weeks and when I went to um court it was Gloucester Crown Court I had to go to and the my barrister and my solicitor were pushing basically for a community sentence order and I told them no, you wanted to go inside, I needed to go to jail. And they looked at me and said but you could be eight and I'm like you put me back out on the streets, I'm going to be dead within six months. And they're like but I said I've got no home, I have no family, I have nothing. I don't want to be a boomerang. I don't want to be that person who statistics that ends up dying. That's not me. Like I suddenly had my fire in my belly again yeah.

Speaker 2: 9:49

I suddenly had the fire in my belly again that I wasn't going out like this. This wasn't how Sam O'Shea ended it like, and the judge. Actually, when my barrister and the solicitor spoke to the judge, he obviously said how, um, how amazing it was that I stood up and I asked for this. It takes balls, basically. And he basically gave me the maximum he could give me, which was two and a half years. So I had to do a year and then when that year finished, I had to do then do another a year and a half and that gave me enough time to do the 12-step program. Come off all my like antidepressants and everything like that and I literally come out fresh oh gosh, congratulations yeah yeah, and the best thing was when I spoke to my mum and obviously rebuilt my relationship with my mum.

Speaker 2: 10:49

That was perfect.

Speaker 1: 10:51

Yeah, I can imagine 15 years of her kind of seeing, like battling with you and not even with you.

Speaker 2: 10:59

Because she had to my dad. Obviously my dad died and me and my dad's relationship was horrendous anyway. But my mum and my stepdad was the only two. They kind of washed their hands, but didn't wash their hands, like they took a step back to go like, no, we need, uh, just to find herself, or whichever way it was. My stepdad and my mum will always be my forever best friends.

Speaker 1: 11:27

I love that. I want to go back a bit as well, just to like as you when you were talking about um, saying that strength that comes, that fire that you called it fire in your belly. That comes from saying I have to go inside, like I have to go to jail, I have to, yeah, to save my, save my life.

Speaker 2: 11:45

That's, that is some strength, that is some bravery, because I'd hit rock bottom and it was either I'm going to die, yeah, and I'm gonna leave everybody this, this memory of of a nasty person I've become because I was evil. Drugs make you do and act ways that you never would before. I didn't want to go out like that. I didn't want my funeral to be empty. I wanted to make something I wanted to be proud of. Okay, so that's who I was, but look at me now. That's how I want to. So I am. Sometimes I can be quite in your face and I can be like don't even go there, you don't need to do that.

Speaker 2: 12:39

You are you and just be you yeah, I think you're amazing but it was hard, it was big and you know what's really weird it's easier to get drugs in jail than while it is outside. Really, I had every opportunity to become a heroin addict. Literally it is everywhere. It's easier.

Speaker 1: 13:07

I could have literally gone out of my room next door at Palanding and it's everywhere so, even with having it so easily inside, you still was able to stay away from it yeah, because that's how much determination and I just needed it. When you was 15 and you took it, did you know what it was that you was taking?

Speaker 2: 13:32

Not really Okay, not really no, just a little summit to. I was a little bit drunk, so it kind of leveled me out a little bit as well, it sobered me up, but then, because of the way it was making me feel, I was just like I need this in my life yeah and it just got to the point where I just couldn't physically say no yeah, that is a story, that is an absolute story.

Speaker 1: 14:04

How many people know?

Speaker 2: 14:06

about? Not not many. Some of my friends through insta know, yeah, but I don't really divulge too much why were you happy to um, why now, not now?

Speaker 1: 14:19

now, like, like you said, there's a little bit here, a little bit there, but what? Why are you? Why are you?

Speaker 2: 14:23

because I feel like everybody who is not an addict it doesn't even need to be an addict but somebody who's in a dark place, somebody who just feels like giving up because their time is just shit at the moment, don't no matter how dark you are, I promise you now there will be a flicker of light. Just hold on to that flicker and I promise you it will get bigger. Just never, ever, give up. Even in your darkest times. Just keep pushing through. Yeah, because if I can overcome drugs and addiction and all of that, I promise you you can overcome anything in this world that throws at you. And I genuinely believe if somebody had that little bit of hope, like me telling my story, just people knowing that, wow, if she can get through that, I am going to be all right, because we are all human. We all bleed the same, we all cry the same, we all, we all bear emotions the same. Yeah, we are all fighting a demon, but just on different levels literally, literally, like a video game, it literally is like a video.

Speaker 2: 15:38

I genuinely believe we are all fighting demons in our own way.

Speaker 1: 15:42

Yeah, I say this I've said this on a few of my episodes that that everyone is fighting a battle that you have no clue about. Like you don't know this, the person that is smiling up in your face and presenting yeah, don't know what is happening in the background every single day, that they're either blocking it by their thoughts, they're blocking it with substances, they're blocking it just by smiling and being.

Speaker 2: 16:06

You know, and it's your happiest of friends that you need to check upon the most? Yeah, because the bigger the smile could potentially be hiding the biggest pain and you just go in. Are you okay? But really, are you okay? Yeah yeah, could change somebody's day, yeah immensely.

Speaker 1: 16:31

A couple weeks ago I was at my gym and there is this, the this gym, um, a yoga instructor there, yeah, and she's done reiki on me a few times, and every time she does reiki she's like your, your energy is giving bits, but your, this isn't, this is going on fine. So she's like you're right. I said I'm fine, how are you baby? She said no, but are you, are you okay? And I went oh, you mean that okay? I said honestly, are we, any of us okay?

Speaker 2: 17:00

but sometimes the problem shared is a problem have, like I find it easier talking to strangers than I do. Yeah, then I do my own, like family and stuff, because they're less to judge you less to judge you.

Speaker 1: 17:16

Everyone else has expectations of you. Yes, a hundred percent.

Speaker 2: 17:19

They do everyone. Yeah, it's like being a man this, uh like we're sitting with somebody on a bus stop, they don't know you you can tell them yeah, that's it, yeah. And then you sit on the bus in. To us that conversation could be gone, but to them they could hold on to a little bit of that and go.

Speaker 1: 17:40

Why they'll never forget that's so powerful and I, yeah, absolutely. You don't forget that conversation you had at a bus stop with a stranger where you told them way too much but they and they listened and they gave you something back and you're just like you remember yeah, it's just even just the eye connection, just the little warmth of the shrug, like where they just want to hug you.

Speaker 2: 18:03

It's just. You know you can connect with so many people sammy, bear with me a second child yes, okay, sorry my daughter. I have a child here dancing with a book um an umbrella. It's fine.

Speaker 1: 18:22

I can. I can see that you have a child. I can see your eyes. Honestly, he's got the joys. It's the real life, with the real life. Baby, what happens?

Speaker 2: 18:32

the cleaning connects with your journey, yeah, so so for me, I I prefer a really dirty house because I look at it as a drug addict. So as I'm cleaning it, it's becoming an addict in recovery, so as it shines, it's like, it's like me then. Yeah, so it's like how I used to be. Yeah, how I am now and that's how I got into cleaning and that's how I got into cleaning and that's my yeah, that's my thing. Like I do prefer a dirtier house.

Speaker 1: 19:06

Yeah, like a lived-in house.

Speaker 2: 19:09

Yes definitely.

Speaker 1: 19:12

Do you clean for other people or it's just your thing?

Speaker 2: 19:17

Yeah, so I used to. I used to have my own company called Sammy Sparkles. Oh, I used to do, um, I used to have, like, my own company called Sammy Sparkles, um, so yeah, and I used to do like domestic so houses, airbnb, salons yeah, but my son's ADHD so it was hard for me to be away. And then the school yeah bring me and stuff. So it's just like right, okay, so now I just do part-time in an office and so I've got a few.

Speaker 1: 19:45

I've got a few extra questions. So I wasn't sure. You know, sometimes people um kind of just got into cleaning. I know some of the shine squad this like maybe recently they've gotten into it. So, yeah, it's always, I'm always interested to know who was cleaning before, what were they doing before and everything. So okay, here's a question. Obviously, you're in the Central Penetra podcast and I want to know what does extra mean to you?

Speaker 2: 20:11

The term extra being unapologetically yourself, just being bold. Well, it doesn't even have to be just be you, just be you, whether that be quiet, but just be uniquely unapologetically yourself. Don't dim your lights because it brights. Make them wear glasses, make them wear fucking glasses and shine it brighter so it shatters glass, like just be you?

Speaker 1: 20:43

yeah, absolutely thank you. Thank you for sharing that with me. Um, I went through years of just kind of dimming dear, like literally walking into a room and it's like I feel like in my head I was big, but then I was just like, oh, I don't want to be too big though, because I don't want to piss everyone off and my but then didn't people question you then, though, because you wasn't being yourself.

Speaker 1: 21:05

Some did so, some that really knew me. They were like are you okay? And I'd be like, yeah, I'm fine. But there was always, maybe something that had happened that made me say you're doing too much, don't do too much, whereas now, if someone says you're doing too much, I'd be like, oh, amazing Good.

Speaker 2: 21:22

So let me do some more, then that means I'm going to be in people's memories because I was that big, bold, beautiful woman who stood up and just said how it was Absolutely.

Speaker 1: 21:36

And also when my dad passed away, he was really extra, he was enough. He was in your face, he was the one in the middle of the party dancing until the lights came on. And when he passed away I was just like I want to be that guy who just doesn't care, Like my dad didn't care. My dad didn't care that everyone was like, oh, Steve's drunk or Steve's in the middle dancing, or is he drunk?

Speaker 1: 22:07

Like no, no he's just having a good time. Did Steve have to be drunk, no, to have a good time, or was he just unapologetically himself.

Speaker 2: 22:10

He was unapologetically himself and people, and some people, yeah, and obviously there you go, people's making excuses because his bright, his light was too bright too bright and I've had that.

Speaker 1: 22:20

I've had people be like, are you drunk? And I'm like I'm not even drunk and I've had that. I've had people be like, are you drunk? And I'm like I'm not even drunk, like I haven't even had a drink today. Like by today, that sounds like a drink a lot, but I just haven't even had a drink. Or we've just got to the club Like I haven't even started. There are certain things, there are certain people and there are certain people. I'm around and I can act like I've literally drank the whole bottle and we haven't had it.

Speaker 2: 22:46

we're just, and that's when you know you have met your kind of people absolutely a hundred percent and I love that feeling.

Speaker 1: 22:53

It's so euphoric find your people, find your tribe and you can have that feeling every single day and you will grow.

Speaker 2: 23:00

You'll grow exactly how you need to grow. Every flower blooms and blossoms completely different. Yeah, but you need to find your garden of wild flowers so you can all bloom and blossom together yeah, find your garden of wild flowers.

Speaker 1: 23:17

I love that it is.

Speaker 2: 23:19

We are all wild flowers, aren't we?

Speaker 1: 23:21

yeah, absolutely okay. So another question what inspires you? It could be a what or a who inspires you to keep going?

Speaker 2: 23:34

my former self, the person I used to be. So I've still got pictures of when I was in addict. I've still got, like, my prison photos. So when I do feel like times are tough, I will go and look back and go. But is it though? Yeah, oh, is it though, really like look at what you've achieved there, like, is it really? You're just going through a little blip, like straight in that? Definitely show you know, wipe yourself off, try again. But yeah, definitely the person I used to be awesome do you have a name for her, or she's Sammy?

Speaker 2: 24:10

she's just Samantha, she's just yeah, yeah, yeah, she's just your your hair, sorry, and I go on tangents.

Speaker 1: 24:20

This is the adac me. Is that natural, that natural gray at the front? Oh sorry, that's silver, yeah yeah, it's all natural.

Speaker 2: 24:28

So my hat I used to. This is another thing as well. So I was forever changing my hair yeah, always wearing makeup and I stopped. Don't wear no makeup anymore, I stopped, stopped colouring my hair, had it all cut, so it's all natural. This is me. What you see is what you get. I am not being anything else. I can only just be me. If you don't like it, next, please. I forgot your son's there. He is, honestly, he is. I'm not filtered. I'll beat somebody up for you. And nor is he the ADHD in this one.

Speaker 1: 25:11

What's his name?

Speaker 2: 25:13

Kyle, hi, kyle, bye, no, he said hi.

Speaker 1: 25:20

Hi, say bye. He's trying to run me off already, don, already, don't worry, I'm not gonna keep him on for too much longer.

Speaker 2: 25:23

No, you carry on. I think he thought you said bye, that's all right, um and okay.

Speaker 1: 25:28

So what's your favorite song, sammy?

Speaker 2: 25:34

do you know what one sweet day by mariah carey and boys to man. Oh yeah, I love that song. It's obviously saying goodbye to ones that we've lost and stuff, isn't it? But I look at it is me saying goodbye to the old me, yeah I'm gonna put it up quickly.

Speaker 1: 25:52

Do you like karaoke? But?

Speaker 2: 25:55

I can't sing. We need to try karaoke.

Speaker 1: 25:58

Yeah I do, here we go, there you go, I remember it now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, I love this that one. Okay, yeah, definitely. Oh mint choc chip, mine's just pistachio, so they're both green, so we've got a little something going on. Yeah, and this is my last fire question. I was thinking of it before I came on. I was like what are just random questions that I could ask because we've got to keep it random. Really, yes, if you could be a fruitwi? Oh, why I love a Kiwi?

Speaker 2: 26:38

Because not everybody likes them.

Speaker 1: 26:41

I don't.

Speaker 2: 26:43

And I am an acquired taste.

Speaker 1: 26:45

Mm-hmm. See, it makes sense, I love a Kiwi. See, before you even said that, I said I love a Kiwi, see. See, I love a Kiwi, and sometimes they can make your throat itch.

Speaker 2: 26:54

Yeah, and I probably do make a lot of people itch.

Speaker 1: 27:00

What would you want to leave everyone with? What do you want everyone to know about you? Would you want everyone to eat? Just something you want us to know about ourselves, something that you can leave us with? Um, yeah, anything what's?

Speaker 2: 27:11

yeah, don't be afraid to ask for help. Please don't. Don't let it get to the point where you feel like you're drowning. My inbox is open to anybody and everybody. If they're on Instagram, jump in my inbox. I will be that person. If you need somebody to talk to, don't suffer in silence, but live your life the way you want to live it. Don't live at how x, y and z want you to live it. It's your life. We get one shot at it. Make it count, leave a mark, whether it's because you're big, bold and beautiful. So what? Just be you baby.

Speaker 1: 27:57

I love that. I am so grateful that. I'm so grateful that the conversation, I'm so grateful you reached out to me and I'm so grateful we crossed paths in the quiet room because had that not happened, this might not have happened and 100, 100, and so I'm just so grateful.

Speaker 2: 28:18

The way the universe just puts things in your path, and puts people in your path and and moves things for situations to happen, because I weren't supposed to be, even be in that quiet room, like no, it was bizarre, it was, we just happened just to walk in, yeah, as you was coming out and I right there, and then I it was weird because I wanted to grab you and go, we need to talk, I need to talk to you and I was like you don't know her Sam back off a little bit, but I wanted to grab you then and go, we need to talk. I feel like I need to share my life with you and I've never felt like that with anybody before yeah, oh my god, yeah, see, that was that was my angel was like.

Speaker 1: 29:02

I feel like my angel sits on my back, or you know, my guardian is just like, yes, puts things there and highlights people that maybe I haven't seen, for whatever reason. Um, so, thank you, thank you. Yes, no, thank you, thank you. You are. Yes, no, thank you, thank you. You are absolutely amazing. I just feel so grateful. I feel so honoured, honestly, I feel so honoured that you shared your story with me, with us. So good luck with everything, and I just really hope this I don't know what you know. Sometimes you don't know what you think something could do for you or do for you, and my platform is still growing. It's still small, but I just hope it just brings more.

Speaker 2: 29:42

You know what, even if you've got that one person listening and somebody goes, I can do this. We've done it. We've done what we've achieved to do to make that one person realise, or a million people realise, it doesn't matter how dark your days are. There will be a light at the end of that tunnel you are absolutely magnificent.

Speaker 1: 30:03

You are absolutely magnificent and you are just. There's just so much in you. Like you, I feel like you need a podcast. You've got so much advice and just gems and golden nuggets to give and leave people. Don't never stop talking. I know you won't, I know you. I already know you won't ever stop talking. No, no definitely not.

Speaker 2: 30:25

I just chat her anyway, just over everything and anything amazing.

Speaker 1: 30:29

I don't think this will be the last time we'll talk. I like, if you're open, I'd love to talk to you again. We will have a topic. Yeah, okay, cool, yeah, I'll be like. My residency guest is back on. Yes, I love that amazing. And any next time you're in London, if you're ever coming to London, just be like, hit me up if you have time and even if we can go grab a coffee and whatever yes, because I need to have a look at this.

Speaker 1: 30:54

Mums who rave, I think, I think I need, oh my god, if you can come to mums that rave, we have the best time last week because I thought, okay, let's do it, let's do it, but it's fun yeah, I'm gonna, so have a look, I think another look, baby.

Speaker 1: 31:09

Yes, we'll have a good dance and everything, but yeah, that's it. Oh, thank you so much, my darling. Thank you, no, thank you so much. Thank you so the rest of your day. Bye, kyle. Is he still there? Yeah, I said bye, bye, baby bye. That was an absolute amazing episode.

Speaker 1: 31:31

I'm so grateful for sammy coming in and sharing her experience, like her life experience, with us. And yeah, she, just she was dropping gems, like she had so many gems and I feel like going forward. I'm so excited to have people like that on the podcast. Like, just come and speak and share your experiences and share your, share, your life and as much as you want to share, like, if you don't want to share certain bits, that's fine. She was just an open book and, yeah, like she said this, it's just showing you that if I can get through this, then you can get through yours and you can get through that and whatever it is, don't, don't be scared to ask for help. And there were so many things that she said that I was like for help and there were so many things that she said that I was like she's talking to you, she's talking to you, okay, um, I was, I was. I was sucking, sucking back the emotions. I'm not even gonna lie, I was sucking back the emotions. But yeah, when your energy just connects with someone, do not fight that. Yeah, instantly I was like the t. It's like a tingly feeling that you get, like I need, I want to speak to this person and or something just takes you and you know sometimes like you'll say something, can it doesn't even, it's like weird for you to say that, but it came out and you know and it's like okay, yeah, cool, let's go so anyway. So anyway, I absolutely enjoyed that episode. I hope you guys enjoyed it. I hope you guys got something from it. Go and follow Sammy, go support her, go send her some love and just like just thank her for being so brave and sharing herself with us. And, with that said, we've reached the end of the podcast.

Speaker 1: 33:13

So who's that A-Town down West Side is the best side? Do I believe that? So he's that a-time down west side is the best side? Do I believe that? Well, not really. But whatever I do, you know, wherever I'm at the vibe's at, the vibe is gonna always be vibing, and so, if you're available, on what date is it? I don't know the 7th I think it's the 7th of december I would be at mums that rave and I'm gonna be vibing, so if you're up for it, can we go? Let's party. Love you guys. Bye.